Principles of Operation

Kent Karlsson kent.karlsson14 at
Fri Jan 25 00:37:35 CET 2008

John Cowan wrote:
> Scania and Bornholm once spoke the same language (though the local
> dialect is dying out on Bornholm), as ample historical records prove.
> What would you call that?

Bornholmska (or "bornholmsk" in Danish). It's a dialect of Danish,
not related to present-day Scanian (but to "old Scanian"). It is not
a dialect of Swedish, and may be sufficiently different from ordinary
Danish to warrant a separate language code (like Jutish).

See (don't trust the
English counterpart). It says: "Bornholmsk er en af de dialekter,
der er svarest at forsta for danskere fra andre egne af landet,
og nogle vil derfor beskrive bornholmsk som et selvstandigt sprog
[...]". (approx. "Bornholmsk is one of the dialects that is harderst
for danes from other parts of the country to understand, and some
therefore wants to describe bornholmsk as a separate language [...]")

*If so*, it would be just fine to give it a language code. But don't
refer to it as "Scanian". I'm sure one would not find much opposition
to refering to "Bornholmian" as a language and give it a code
(assuming the above statement is true).


> > *In that time* they spoke some dialect of Danish in those regions, yes.
> > But it was not what is *now* referred to as skanska ("Scanian").
> But is this language replacement, or just relabeling?

Replacement. And not without opposition in that day. Bornholmian,
as I think it is now best called, is not spoken in Sweden since long.

> > gives the name P1-skanska
> > to standard Swedish with a Skane accent ;-) [P1 is a PBS radio channel].
> There you go.

But as I said, that is not the Skane dialect (skanska/Scanian).

> > Not me, if that's what you think. (I don't know who that 
> > was/were, but we appear to agree.)
> I didn't think it was you, but I did think you'd know who it was.

No. But I might say "aha" if I find out...

But we're getting a bit too off-topic for *this* list, and before
Micheal tells us to stop, I will stop.

	/kent k

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