Proposal for a subtag registration (fr-2004-ORTOGRAF or fr-ortograf ?)

Mario Périard mario_periard at
Fri Dec 14 15:38:05 CET 2007

We intend to spread ortograf among population in general also. Not to necesserly to replace the traditionnal spelling but rather to propose a standard if the situation or our feeling demands an easy and rapid written code. Ex to chat, to communicate with people with some disabilities or informal commnunication.
This feature exist for many words in french: clé/clef, lys/lis, parfum/parfun... Why not for every word ?
I confess that is contreversial issue for many francophones.
I am sorry if i could have sounded condescending, my imperfect command of english is probably the reason for it.
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:10:37 -0800> From: MRC at CAC.Washington.EDU> To: mario_periard at> CC: ietf-languages at> Subject: RE: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr-2004-ORTOGRAF or fr-ortograf ?)> > I am curious about one point.> > As I understand it, the "ortograf alternativ" orthography is what in the > vernacular is called a "simplified spelling" of French. It is presented > as a means to enable literacy in individuals who have a handicap that > causes them difficulties with the standard orthography of French > difficult.> > One note: the way you described it sounds rather condescending in > English; in particular "defective" has a negative connotation in English. > This was probably totally unintentional, but shows the dangers of literal > translations... ;-)> > My question is whether or not you wish to propose this orthography as > something that should ultimately be adopted by the general public as a > "simplified spelling reform", with the obvious advantage of lowering the > bar to literacy for everybody [and obvious disadvantages].> > I am no Francophone; but I am under the impression that Francophones have > a particular pride in the beauty and stability of their language, and > would resist any such measure more than perhaps any other culture.> > If this orthography is limited to the handicapped, wouldn't that further > serve to disenfranchise these unfortunates? In effect, they would be > taught to read in a language that only they use, and the language of the > general public would remain forever incomprehensible. Is that really a > good thing?> > All of this is irrelevant to whether this orthography gets a tag, and > what the tag should be. It is more for my own curiosity.> > -- Mark --> >> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.> Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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