Fw: m49 code for Scotland?

[Debbie Garside]

 John wrote:

> To recap:  Currently, UNSD is internally (and informally)
> using the M.49 codes 827 for England and Wales, 828 for
> Northern Ireland, and 829 for Scotland.  Making these
> official could (apparently) be done by request of the U.K.
> This would not require ISO 3166/MA action and would not have
> ccTLD implications.

Hmmmm... Ok, I will ask the UK Gov and see what the general consensus is on
this.  But, as with Guernsey, Jersey and IM. There would need to be various
government interactions if this were to succeed - and the wheels of
government turn slowly.  Given that JE et al took about 2 years from start
to finish don't expect me to come back any sooner :-)

Do you want to draft something (privately) wrt needs/usage that I can
include in my missive?

Best

Debbie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no
> [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of John Cowan
> Sent: 21 August 2007 20:59
> To: Debbie Garside
> Cc: ietf-languages at iana.org; cowan at ccil.org
> Subject: Re: Fw: m49 code for Scotland?
>
> Debbie Garside scripsit:
>
> > The ramifications of allocating 3166 codes for these are
> that it would
> > open the door for ccTLDs.  There are for and there are
> against on this
> > issue. I spoke with WAG and they are on the fence - which I took to
> > mean they don't want to rock the UK boat.
>
> This is not ISO 3166, this is UNSD M.49.  There can be and
> are many entities which have M.49 codes but do not have
> corresponding ISO
> 3166 entries: e.g.  Africa, whose M.49 code is 002 but which
> has no corresponding ISO 3166 code element.
>
> To recap:  Currently, UNSD is internally (and informally)
> using the M.49 codes 827 for England and Wales, 828 for
> Northern Ireland, and 829 for Scotland.  Making these
> official could (apparently) be done by request of the U.K.
> This would not require ISO 3166/MA action and would not have
> ccTLD implications.
>
> > We then get on to the codes for Guernsey, Jersey etc. and
> the Falklands.
> > It would seem that if there is water between the
> geopolitical/devolved
> > entities they can have their own code and if there isn't they can't.
>
> Well, none of those places are integral parts of the U.K.
> Man and the Channel Islands are possessions of the Crown as
> such; the Falklands are one of the (currently) 14 overseas
> territories of (but not part of) the U.K.
>
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