Request for variant subtag fr 16th-c 17th-c
CE Whitehead
cewcathar at hotmail.com
Sat Dec 16 18:02:09 CET 2006
>
>That was not our decision. The code elements "fr" and "frm" are part of
>ISO 639 and were automatically added to the Registry on that basis. ISO
>639 does not deal with variant subtags such as "moyen".
>
>For that matter, the dates "(ca. 1400-1600)" associated with Middle French
>were also inherited from ISO 639, and were not invented by the
>ietf-languages group.
>
>--
Yes I see there is a lot of automatic coding by IETF; those dates and such
are the standards and are available through Wikipedia! And are mostly fine!
Nevertheless I was not taught that 16th century French was that distinct
from Modern French (15th century French is slightly moreso of course;
languages change over time; not in an instant).
I have no problem with the dates or the codes (though I do note that when
the SIL languages are adopted which is going to be a bonanza in terms of
increasing the number of language tags available probably there may be
nevertheless a few groupings that are worth disputing; that is, you do not
have to adopt everything exactly as it's been encoded by another body as
some of the coding is arbitrary and merits discussion; but I'm really not
trying to be that subversive in this case); my concern is about searching
and search engines retrieving 16th century French and about no information
being encoded in 17th century tags to indicate they are a variety.
I guess my one change is I want the fr coding to be available for 16th
century French in its transition to modern French and the frm code to be
available for 17th century French which is sometimes Middle French (and some
documents contain elements of both.).
Thanks.
I'm going to try not to write again though on this to correct any further
assumptions on your part--except if I may vote let me know; I will vote on
one of my proposals.
Thanks for all your responses and discussions but I hope it is time to vote
and move on.
--C. E. Whitehead
cewcathar at hotmail.com
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