Distinguishing Greek and Greek
sikas at ics.forth.gr
Wed Mar 16 11:21:12 CET 2005
Goodmornig to all.
I'm following this discussion for some days now, and as Greek
I would like to add my thoughts to this, although I'm not a
I think that the whole discussion is limited to what is called
In such case there is only one script (el).
except from the absence of some diacritical marks,
the orthography between the monotonic and the polytonic is the same.
Monotonic was established (officialy) in 1982, and the only change
was the removal of the diacritical marks.
Greek was a well known bi-lingual (excuse me if the term is not correct)
language. There were in the near past two variants of the Greek
language, with different orthography between them.
The first one is the "katharevousa" and the second one "dimotiki"
(what we now call modern Greek).
Greek language was one of the major examples of social diglossia
(see Ferguson 1959).
This matter was resolved in 1976 (after years of discussions) when
the "modern Greek" variant determined to be the official language
In any case the script used was exactly the same. There is no difference
in the way letters are represented. Again only the orthography
changes (but we have a major orthographical change).
A script change happened back in 1453.
Until 1453 the script used was archaic Greek (Ancient Greek) where
we have some more characters invloved.
But I believe this sould be in accordance to iso 639-2 and
go with the "grc" language code.
If the goal of language tags is to cover also orthographical
changes, el-monoton/el-polyton covers only the modern Greek.
Doug Ewell wrote:
> I agree with Michael and Addison that the difference between polytonic
> and monotonic Greek is a matter of orthography, not two different
> scripts, not even in the sense that Hans and Hant can be considered
> different scripts.
> Accordingly, I support the creation of two new tags, "el-polyton" and
> "el-monoton". These will fit neatly into the current RFC 3066 framework
> as well as the proposed subtag-oriented RFC 3066bis framework.
> Naturally, "el-polytonic" and "el-monotonic" would be nicer, but both
> 3066 and 3066bis have this pesky 8-character limit...
> -Doug Ewell
> Fullerton, California
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> Ietf-languages at alvestrand.no
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