Re-sending TXT form of Proposed IDNA2008 Transition Idea
Steve Crocker
steve at shinkuro.com
Mon Dec 14 21:44:51 CET 2009
John,
With the caveat that I haven't given this deep and lengthy thought and
I haven't discussed this with anyone else, the model and value
proposition I have in mind is the following.
The variants represent a potential for new revenue if either the
existing registrant or a new registrant is willing to pay for it. As
a marketing strategy, the registrar can choose to register the
variants for a period of time. This would be a loss leader, but the
costs would be minimal if the registry and ICANN cooperated to waive
their fees.
The technical detail would be for the registrar to send to the
registry the same set of records associated with the base name. This
would be independent of whether the registrar were also the DNS
operator or web service provider for the registrant.
The registrants would all be notified but wouldn't have to do
anything. When the time period expires, the registrant could choose
to keep none, some or all of the variants. Whether this is a good
deal for the registrars depends on the retention rate. I'm not expert
in this, but it seems to me it's *much* more attractive to sell a
renewal of something the registrant has already been using than it is
to sell him something new. That's why free trial periods are included
for software, XM radio, etc., etc.
The cost for the registrars is a mass operation that does not require
any buy in from the registrants in advance. The cost for the registry
is support for the additional names. Pat Kane points out that some of
the IDNs have an explosive number of variants. I was focused just on
the sharp-s situation, and the expansion factor there is likely to be
pretty modest.
Steve
On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
>
>
> --On Monday, December 14, 2009 15:17 -0500 Steve Crocker
> <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:
>
>> Patrik,
>
>> Thanks. Let me say this a bit more carefully. My wording was
>> indeed imprecise. The meaning I intended, particularly in
>> the ICANN arena where the registries are restricted from
>> initiating registrations, is that the registrar would
>> registrar the variants on behalf of the existing registrant
>> at no cost for a limited period of time.
>> ...
>
> Steve,
>
> I'm trying to figure out how this would work, at least other
> than on a case-by-case basis. For the registries, ICANN could
> do some persuading, could waive the per-name fee, or offer other
> incentives. And there aren't very many of them. But it seems
> to me that the registrars are a different matter: There are many
> of them. We know that a large number of them are in it
> primarily for the money, with "smooth, stable, and secure
> operation of the Internet" as not a very high priority. Having
> this be "no cost" means that they have to go to significant
> effort to identify appropriate registrations and create new ones
> without any expectation of compensation. Worse, they then
> either have to track the registrants down and work out with them
> how the new zones are going to be delegated and supported
> (costly) or have to support those delegations themselves (also
> costly and with the potential of all sorts of interesting
> security problems since, by definition, that means that the two
> zone files are different except in the case in which the
> registrar is already the registrant's zone admin (and maybe web
> and mail service provider). I don't see our being able to
> persuade them to do that work for the general good as being very
> likely.
>
> Do you have a different model in mind?
>
> john
>
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