Representation (Re: Follow-up from Tuesday's discussion of digits in the)

[Alireza Saleh]

Harald Alvestrand wrote:

> Alireza Saleh wrote:
>> Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>>> The people who are representing the script communities using those 3 
>>> scripts have claimed that there is a problem to be solved at a 
>>> protocol level.
>>> No other script community has made such a claim.
>>>   
>>

The Cairo meeting was not attended by everyone. Iranian s were not given 
visa. All but one participant came from Arab-speaking countries.

>> Just a quick comment. As a member of Arabic-Script community and 
>> according to my previous emails,  I would like to say that we want to 
>> resolve digit-mixing within the registry instead of the protocol. 
> %hanks for that reminder!
>
> The IETF is often accused of disregarding input from organized bodies 
> and listening to only input from individuals that speak up in the 
> IETF; your note is a good reminder that we need to not tilt the other 
> way.
>
> (I checked the idna-arabicscript list and see that you've been arguing 
> the same position there, and so has the other person with a .ir 
> address - so it's clear that the people representing the ASIWG to the 
> IETF don't have an unanimous voice behind them.)
>
>                Harald

I thought each post to the IETF mailing list is considered as individual 
idea except those that the sender declare that it is not.  I would 
appreciate if my posts to this mailing lists are considered as my 
individual capacity.

ASIWG doesn't have participants from all languages which use 
arabic-script so this can affect the statements of the group. I believe 
IETF should listen to ideas regardless the origin and then fairly 
evaluate the inputs before taking any action. Regarding the 
digit-mixing, IETF didn't gather enough information before changing the 
draft and it seems that IETF acts more carefully than ever.

I still can't see any reason other than visual-confusions that make IETF 
prevent digit-mixing in the protocol. As you know, Arabic-Script 
contains homographs that protocol says nothing about them, and all 
should be handled by the Registry (Zone authoritative).

Alireza