Fwd: prohibiting previously mapped and unmapped characters

Mark Davis mark.davis at unicode.org
Wed Nov 29 19:09:22 CET 2006

I think one of the background assumptions for this effort is to focus on
identifying the allowed "output" characters, not the "input" characters.
That is, full width A-Z are already disallowed in the *output* of IDNA, so
this would have no change from that.

In retrospect, we really shouldn't have had the transformation embodied in
IDNA, just what can actually occur "on the wire".


On 11/29/06, Erik van der Poel <erikv at google.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> It's great to see so much energy in the idna200x efforts!
> One of my concerns is that it may be too late to try to prohibit some
> of the characters that were previously permitted by rfcs 349[0-2],
> whether mapped or unmapped in the normalization and case-folding
> processes. One example that comes to mind is the full-width latin
> range U+FF01..5E and another is the cjk iteration mark U+3005.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-faltstrom-idnabis-tables-01.txt
> Some may decide, after a close reading, that the old rfcs do not allow
> non-punycode domain names in html, but the fact of the matter is that
> these do occur. Now that even the market-leading web browser (msie)
> has a version out that supports these (v7), it may become increasingly
> difficult to convince some implementors to prohibit characters that
> actually occur in the wild.
> http://www.majuro.jp/kaisya.html (3rd w in www.fwt.co.jp<http://ww%EF%BD%97.fwt.co.jp>is full-width)
> If it would help, I can take a look at Google's copies of web
> documents to see which characters are actually used there and how many
> occurrences there are of each. Of course, such a sample would omit
> domain names used in email, but the web is quite an important part of
> the Internet too.
> Erik van der Poel
> Google
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