Language subtag modification form for 1694acad (Was: Flavors of Hepburn)

[Mark Davis ☕]

None of the descriptions are that precise, nor is there particular advantage
in trying to add precise descriptions. BCP 47, for example, doesn't describe
the precise differences between en-US and en-GB, or between pt-BR and pt-PT.

Mark


On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:50, CE Whitehead <cewcathar at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> > From: doug at ewellic.org
> > To: ietf-languages at iana.org
> > CC: cewcathar at hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: Language subtag modification form for 1694acad (Was: Flavors
> of Hepburn)
> > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:48:53 -0600
> >
> > CE Whitehead <cewcathar at hotmail dot com> wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, having a date will help to precise the variety, but thank
> > > you for your correction; in Canada and France, although accents are
> > > normalized by the end of the saweventeenth century 'oi' for 'ai'
> > > persists throughout the 18th century; and, at least in
> > > Canada/Louisiana/New France, I believe that 'oy' for 'oi' persists as
> > > well as 'parolle' for 'parole'--'speech' (this latter is strictly
> > > orthographic I think).
> > >
> > > The variety of "Early Modern French" that I described ( 'oi' for 'ai';
> > > the past participle ending with e and the accent aigu being spelled
> > > without any accent as ez, er, or e, depending; 'loing' for
> > > 'loin'--'far;' 'coste' for 'cote'--'side'; finally, before a 't', e
> > > with accent aigu may be spelled 'es' as may e with a circumflex!)
> > > however seems to end largely around or just before 1700.
> > > ...
> > > A quick check at atilf suggests that 'oi' continued to be used for
> > > 'ai' until the end of the eighteenth century actually:
> >
> > This research is actually helpful to prove my point, that the various
> > attributes ascribed to "Early Modern French" died out at considerably
> > different times depending on the source, and that this language variety
> > is better defined by these attributes than by trying to specify strict
> > starting and ending dates. I recommend no change.
>
> Hmm, I would like a more precise description.  "Early Modern French; its
> features include alternate forms for the past participle, 'oi' for 'ai,' and
> 'oste' for 'o[with circumflex]te.'"
>
> However I am sure that this description field is a bit long, so we can
> postpone this for now--and worry about the other subtags we are considering.
>
> Best,
>
> C. E. Whitehead
> cewcathar at hotmail.com
> >
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> >
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