Anomaly in upcoming registry

Lang Gérard gerard.lang at insee.fr
Wed Jul 1 08:45:36 CEST 2009


Dear Doug,

Thank you very much for this complement.
 In fact, my initial description of ISO 639-5 collective language names was not completely accurate because, stictly speaking, "(remainder group)" [or "(group)"] is not really included in the collective name languages as defined inside ISO 639-5, it is an information linking ISO 639-5 with ISO 639-2 that is given inside all ISO 639-5 tables, and that should be maintained when ISO 639-2 is modified regarding such linking information
So that my text should be completed by the adjunction of a new point:


"12-On 2009-03-03, ISO 639/RA-JAC changed the language names concerning 42 alpha-3 collective language ISO 639-2 code elements,  so that:
-"ine/ine" that was an initial code element of ISO 639-2 (1998) changed its collective language name from "Indo-European (Others)/ indo-européennes, autres langues" to
"Indo-European, languages/ indo-européennes, langues";
-"sla/sla" that was an initial code element of ISO 639-2 (1998) changed its collective language name from "Slavic (Other)/ slaves, autres langues" to "Slavic languages/ slaves, langues".

When ISO 639-2 changes modify informations having interest for the linking information column inside ISO 639-5, this column should be accordingly maintained."

Bien cordialement.
Gérard LANG  

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Lang Gérard <gerard dot lang at insee dot fr> wrote:

> 11-ISO 639-5 (2008-05-15) includes the entry "sla", that an alpha-3 
> ISO 639-5 code element to represent the family language name "Slavic 
> languages (remainder group)", that is under the hierarchy of the
> alpha-3 ISO 639-5 code element "ine" to represent the family language 
> name "Indo-European (remainder group)."

"Remainder group" is an ISO 639-5 term for an ISO 639-2 concept, viz. 
"Indo-European (Other)", and these were all effectively converted to full language groups on 2009-03-03 by changing the reference names. 
Check the change page at
http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php .

ISO 639-5/RA should consider updating their information to match that maintained by ISO 639-2/RA, especially since it's the same RA.

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