Re: Mississippi Hißes

[Vint Cerf]

Alex,

these are good operational points. Ultimately, I think your line of  
reasoning leads us to recognize that if we make previously mapped  
characters PVALID, we must think of their use in registrations as  
functionally independent. If registrant wants them to exhibit the  
earlier mapped effect, the registrant will need to make their  
independent resolution achieve this equivalence for him. This suggests  
to me that the registration process and the resolution process should  
be seen as very distinct. While we might adopt rules that operate  
during registration to give the effect of "bundling" (essentially  
assuring the registrant of getting all bundled forms), once this  
registration occurs, it is up to the registrant to manage the set of  
associated domain names to achieve equivalence, if that is desired.

Vint

On Dec 13, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Alexander Mayrhofer wrote:

>
>>> That seems to be headed down a garden path that wouldn't
>> really serve anybody well.
>>> So Stewart & Stevenson: http://www.ssss.com/
>>> would then automatically trigger the bundling of what?
>> ßss.com, sßs.com, sß.com, and ßß.com? Does anybody really
>> want to go there?
>>> What about some snake afficionadoes who decide to register
>> hissssssssss.com?
>
> Even worse, bundling introduces a lot of side effects on registry  
> processes, and make all those processes harder to understand for the  
> registrant.
>
> For example:
>
> - what do you do when the registrant transfers one of the "bundled"  
> domains to a different registrar?
> - When he changes ownership of one of the bundled domains?
> - When he re-delegates just one out of the 8 bundled domains?  Do  
> you "block" the transaction until the registrant has applied the  
> same transaction to those other domains as well?
> - What do you do if the registrant cancels one domain out of the  
> bundle?
> - What if he doesn't pay for one of them?
>
> (And that's the result of just 10 minutes of brainstorming...)
>
> Therefore, it makes sense for registries to avoid bundling at almost  
> any cost, and hence hissss.at and hißß.at should be two completely  
> independent domains.
>
> Which is just possible if mapping "ß" to "ss" stops as soon as  
> IDNA2008 gains major deployment. Otherwise, we'll never ever get rid  
> of the "tainting".
>
> Alex
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