Last Call: 'IETF Problem Statement' to Informational RFC
Keith Moore
moore at cs.utk.edu
Tue Jan 6 20:23:56 CET 2004
> Right. Note that 2418 explicitly notes that rough consensus is not the
> same as unanmity -- chairs are perfectly free to declare consensus even
> if there are some objections to a document.
True. However, in 13 or so years in IETF this is the first time I can
recall that a chair has insisted that last call comments be considered
valid only if the group has expressed affirmative consensus on them. I
believe WG participants have come to expect last call comments to be
evaluated for reasonableness, not that they're being asked to reach a
separate consensus on every issue raised in last call.
This insistence by the chair seems especially odd for a document which
is not a consensus statement, but a "list of problems that are believed
to exist by a significant constituency". We don't have even rough
consensus on this list of problems, what we have is the biases and
editorial decisions of the authors and chairs.
Also, we normally place an even higher value on correctness than we do
on consensus, and most of my comments were specifically intended as
corrections to inaccurate statements and exaggerations that are in the
document. If IESG doesn't agree that these statements need to be
corrected, well, at least someone besides the WG chairs will have
considered it.
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