WG Last Call on IETF Problem Statement (small proposal toexpand text in sections 2.2 and 2.3)

todd glassey todd.glassey at worldnet.att.net
Wed Sep 17 14:48:50 CEST 2003


Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc at dcrocker.net>
To: <Alistair.Urie at alcatel.com>
Cc: "Melinda Shore" <mshore at cisco.com>; "avri" <avri at psg.com>;
<problem-statement at alvestrand.no>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: WG Last Call on IETF Problem Statement (small proposal toexpand
text in sections 2.2 and 2.3)


> Alistair,
>
> AUac> Although I note that a few people have already said we should "just
ship
> AUac> it", may I please make two, small, last minute, proposals to add to
this
> AUac> draft covering a pair of issues concerning problems effecting
>
>
> I believe both of the points you raise are interesting.
>
> I believe neither of them is essential to include.
>
> We can never list all of the problems. There are too many.  We need to
limit
> the list or we will never complete it.

Not true - What we need to break the list into several lists. That is to
create listso of associated problems specific to a conceptual area. Like
problems with the "Posting Model" and "Participation Models" in the WG's.
The problem with the current list is that it is all encompassing and as such
it is too large. But if it was broken down into smaller areas of concern the
work-product documents would be more manageable and of a more digestable set
of goals (at least IMHO).

>
> The impetus for this work is to correct major problems with the IETF that
are
> hurting the timeliness and utility of IETF output.  While there are many,
many
> things we might do to make improvements, we need to limit the current,
formal
> effort to major problems.
>
> I believe the two items you have cited are worthy of discussion and may
> warrant changes, but I do not believe they warrant further delays to the
> working group documents.
>
> d/
>
> ps.
> --
>  Dave Crocker <dcrocker-at-brandenburg-dot-com>
>  Brandenburg InternetWorking <www.brandenburg.com>
>  Sunnyvale, CA  USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253>
>
>
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