Moving the process document forward

[Avri Doria]

I got one of the draft names wrong in this email.
Correction below.

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On lördag, sep 6, 2003, at 07:38 Asia/Seoul, Avri Doria wrote:

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> On lördag, sep 6, 2003, at 00:49 Asia/Seoul, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
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>>> I think Jeanette is talking about the process for initiating a
>>> proposal for change.
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>> I think so to. And I'm pessimistic about that happening quickly
>> except by decisive IESG action.
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> speaking personally:
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> And if that happens, then perhaps a proposal from this group does 
> become superfluous.  but until such time as they do, it is the WG role 
> to try and suggest a process to them.
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> And draft-davies-structural-rev-process-02 itself says, this group can 
> decide that it

should be draft-ietf-problem-process-02.txt

> doesn't want to suggest any process other then asking the IESG to 
> please fix things.  and if that turns out to be the rough consensus 
> then fine it gets documented and we are done.
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> My concern is that if we wait for speedy decisive action and that 
> action doesn't come then a year can pass with us being no further 
> along then we are now.  the only alternative most of us have since we 
> cannot affect the IESG in any direct manner is to continue working 
> within the context of this WG within the context of its charter.
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> As i see the SAP proposal in draft-davies-structural-rev-process-00 it 
> is a way to create a 'design team', making sure that it gets and 
> considers opinions from all involved.
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