IETF mission boundaries (Re: IESG proposed statement on theIETF mission )

[todd glassey]

Spencer, this is not intended at you personally but rather at the whole IETF
and this WG in particular. So let me ask then - What makes you think *you*
or anyone else here has any say as to what is or is not routed on the
Internet. ***YOU DON'T***  also as to "what breaks the Internet" - You don't
there too. None of us do.

And in fact NO ONE PERSON has any possible say as to the US internet except
the person running DHS and if you doubt this - try arguing with them.

BTW - The biggest thing the IETF can do is to get off the concept of "that
its wares and efforts" only pertain to the Internet. Because they don't -
obviously so too, and this is a key issue. If the IETF's actions only
pertained to the Internet and there was such a quantifiable thing as the
Internet then this might have some meaning - but its a fantasy that the IESG
likes to propagate to justify its existence.

Sorry if the truth hurts - but it is what it is.

Todd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer at mcsr-labs.org>
To: <ietf at ietf.org>; <problem-statement at alvestrand.no>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: IETF mission boundaries (Re: IESG proposed statement on theIETF
mission )


> > The number of application protocols with the oomph to "break" the
> > Internet is quite small
>
> OK, I've gotta ask - how many times do we break the Internet before we
> reverse this reasoning? (How many times is "too many"?)
>
> (signed) curious
>
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