IESG restructuring (Re: Example of the One Liners out of context)

[Bound, Jim]

if we are serious about this discussion having a process director is a very bad idea is my input.  The IETF chair does this job.  Lets not add more heads to the process to solve problems.

/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:harald at alvestrand.no] 
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 3:44 PM
> To: Randy Bush
> Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: IESG restructuring (Re: Example of the One Liners 
> out of context)
> 
> 
> what do other people think here?
> 
> --On søndag, mai 25, 2003 07:25:22 -0700 Randy Bush 
> <randy at psg.com> wrote:
> 
> > i do not think that adding a process director to the iesg is 
> > constructive, and would be in fact destructive.  we don't need to 
> > politicize the wgs, iesg, secretariat as we already have 
> this wg. we 
> > should leave some parts of the organization to do actual ietf work.
> >
> > and all this seems like so much red herring, without even 
> sour cream, 
> > but plenty of confrontationalism, polarization, etc.  no real 
> > substance, all politics, at which we engnineers are so 
> expert (not).  
> > so we destroy our organization and our culture with it. 
> > omplalo-sepsis.
> >
> > dunno about you, but i spent years in the iso, ieee, ansi, 
> ...  i came 
> > here to get engineering work done, not play amateur power politics, 
> > voting blocks, ....  the focus on real work has been the ietf's 
> > strength and the root of its success.  i suggest we play to our 
> > strengths, not divisiveness, mud-slinging, and demagoguery.
> >
> > randy
> >
> >
> 
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