My thoughts about the problems of the IETF

[Bound, Jim]

I agree with your general synopsis of ngtrans but will not comment
further.
thanks
/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Moore [mailto:moore at cs.utk.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:28 AM
> To: Bound, Jim
> Cc: moore at cs.utk.edu; Jonne.Soininen at nokia.com; 
> harald at alvestrand.no; problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: My thoughts about the problems of the IETF
> 
> 
> > WGs should be under pressure. I think killing ngtrans shows some 
> > accountability in theory as example.
> 
> ngtrans had become a perpetual working group, which is nearly 
> always a bad idea.  it also had very little focus - meaning 
> that it no longer had an organizing principle by which it 
> could keep its work within a managable scope.
> 
> ("anything having to do with IPv6" was too large, there were 
> too many things going on for the group to do due diligence in 
> investigating them). 
> 
> there's no good way to kill such groups once they've reached 
> that point, people have become too attached to them.  you 
> have to kill them sooner. or you have to set the expectation 
> that no group will last more than X months and stick to it.
> 
> > If someone does not have good communications skills I don't believe 
> > they should be in any leadership position in the IETF.
> 
> so many skills required, so few individuals with the right skill set.
> 
> Keith
>