My thoughts about the problems of the IETF

[Bound, Jim]

But, because a WG busts their behind and does all the work and holds
their ground on a technology decision does not mean it's a mob
mentality.

What we need to do after hearing all this rhetoric is more empowerment
to the Chairs.

I am convinced this will solve most problems we have and that is what is
done in industry.

You set up a set of clear articulated rules for the general case and
then you empower your managers to execute.

So I don't want the Chairs second guessed or to be figure head for the
IESG or any review committee.

Empower the Chairs and let them make decisions within the general
guidelines and if they fail then fire them.

WE also need a better way to fire IESG members too when they fail.

The bottom line is oligarchy or monarchy does not work history has
proven that clearly.
That is what we have now we have to fix the root of our process.  

Regards,
/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian at hursley.ibm.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 5:44 AM
> To: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: My thoughts about the problems of the IETF
> 
> 
> Keith Moore wrote:
> > 
> > > Anyway as I wrote to Brian as well - I sometimes tend to trust a 
> > > bigger group of people to be more objective than a 
> smaller group of 
> > > people...
> 
> That is why a largish group of *cross-area* reviewers is needed.
> 
> > 
> > often it works exactly the opposite - mob mentality sets in.
> 
> That is why a review system has to be carefully constructed 
> with appropriate public visibility and checks & balances.
> 
>    Brian
>