appeal mechanisms was Re: Ombuds-process
erosen at cisco.com
Mon Jun 30 11:37:49 CEST 2003
People seem to have trouble remembering just what the problem with the
appeals process is, although this was discussed extensively on this list a
month or so ago.
An AD may decide to derail a document by explicitly rejecting it on
non-objective grounds. Or, more likely, the AD may derail it by delaying it
indefinitely; John Klensin gave a very lucid description of the
"hypothetical" process which an AD could use to ensure that the document
never gets published, even though it never really gets rejected.)
Unless there is an explicit process violation, there is no effective appeals
mechanism to remedy this situation.
Given that the IETF is ostensibly set up as a meritocracy, its legitimacy
depends on the application of objective criteria for decision making, but
there is no effective way to audit the IESG to ensure that they don't try to
impose their own personal visions and/or political agendas.
It is unfortunate that most of the messages on this list seem to be from the
"old boys" themselves, who of course take umbrage any time someone tries to
point out a real problem.
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