Trusting the IESG to manage the reform process (was: Re: Doing t he Right Things?)

Margaret Wasserman mrw at
Wed Jun 25 18:50:15 CEST 2003

Hi Phillip,

On two separate occassions, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
>It would also explain the generation gap problem. The simple fact is that no
>matter what anyone under 40 does in the IETF they are never going to get
>accepted into the inner circle.


>That type of behavior is not open and it is not inclusive. It is an old boys
>network (and yes they almost always are boys).

I don't know what IETF you are working in, but...

I am not (for another two weeks) over 40, nor am I a "boy", but
I do think that I have been accepted into the "inner circle" of
the IETF -- whatever that means.

I did find it difficult to get established in the IETF as a newbie,
but that difficulty was not (IMO) related in any way to my age
or gender.


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