Wording of Engineering Processes Problem

[Keith Moore]

> IMO, the problem isn't that we don't use effective
> engineering processes (although using them may be part
> of the solution).  I'd state the problem as:
> 
> "WGs do not consistently produce timely, high-quality
> and predictable output."

there's more to engineering than these considerations.  two things
come to mind immediately: cost-effectiveness and responsibility to the
public.