Straw process outline for dealing with structural and practic

Margaret Wasserman mrw at windriver.com
Fri Jul 18 18:47:40 CEST 2003


At 10:09 PM 7/18/2003 +0200, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>Really? I am not aware that anybody proposed such a model yesterday as
>described in Elwyn's mail.

My slides included:

Blue ribbon panel/design team?
  - Chosen in some representative fashion
  - Solicits proposals and input from the community
  - Develops a recommendation to reform our management model
  - Recommendation is reviewed and ratified by the community

Although this is nowhere near as detailed, it is similar.

>Our proposal emerged as a response to the problem working group meeting.
>While there was support for the issue document and the short term
>improvements of the process document, we seemed to get stuck in a dead
>end with regard to those problems that affect the IETF's structure. People
>clearly didn't like the idea to delegate those structural issues to a working
>group. Or so we thought. That is why we tried to develop a different model,
>which would be, perhaps, less cumbersome and also integrate more people
>than a wg.

This makes sense as a follow-on from the Problem WG.  However, at
the plenary, people offered much stronger support for the idea
that the IESG should propose a solution to these problems than they
did for any of the other options...

>Now, some people say they want to see some visible changes soon while
>others caution about moving too fast. Hmmm, is there a non frustrating path
>out of this?

We have consensus to start the near-term efforts, and there is
also non-formal work underway (as Harald discussed in the
plenary) to fix some immediate issues.  So, maybe that will
satisfy folks who want action now?

> > lets solicit ideas (as IDs) over the next 60 (or 30) days then discuss
> > them for a fixed time (e.g. 30 days) and see where we are at that point.
>
>Actually, Scott, this is not entirely different from what our model 
>proposes. Is
>it the Synthesis and Answer Panel, that you find too formal?

I believe that Scott doesn't want to determine how we will
make a decision until we know what change options are on the
table.

Margaret




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