Robert's Rules (Re: ADs who are also WG chairs)

[avri]

Some parts of this conversation would be just right for the
Solutions list.  I might even be able to contribute.

a.

ps. but you are indulged. :-)

On lördag, jul 5, 2003, at 01:56 Asia/Seoul, Harald Tveit Alvestrand 
wrote:

> <note - this is offtopic, but seems informative... begging indulgence 
> from the chairs....>
>
> --On fredag, juli 04, 2003 09:44:59 -0700 "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" 
> <pbaker at verisign.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> serious question:
>>>
>>> do you have an example of a version of Robert's rules of
>>> order that has
>>> successfully been applied to mailing lists?
>>
>> This was the subject of some study by my group when I was at IETF. We 
>> ran
>> an Open Meeting over the Internet for Vice President Al Gore.
>>
>> That was a moderated forum using an adapted form of Recher's 
>> dialectic,
>> however the moderation was not essential in that case.
>
> do you have a reference? I'm not familiar with Recher's dialectic...
>
>>> RR has a number of concepts that are hard to apply to a
>>> mailing list -
>>> recognition of speakers by the chair, expulsion from the room
>>> of disorderly
>>> members, voting in real time on points of procedure, for
>>> instance. I'd be
>>> interested in hearing of examples of successful adaptations.
>>
>> Some of the rules are not appropriate because the constraints are 
>> not. For
>> example it is not necessary to require recognition by the chair since 
>> it
>> is possible for more than one person to speak at once.
>>
>> The key point is what to do with respect to decisions and what to do 
>> with
>> in person and conference call meeting time.
>>
>> What we do in OASIS in most cases is to run with an abreviated 
>> version of
>> the rules except when there is an actual controversy and someone 
>> wants to
>> make sure process is followed.
>
> that's been my impression with most places that claim to follow RR too 
> - that unless there's a conflict, things jut run in an ad-hoc fashion, 
> but that once there is conflict, one has the ruleset to fall back on 
> to ensure orderly and clear decision-making.
>
> And I actually think that's an eminently sensible way to run meetings, 
> and wish we knew how to make mailing lists do that.
>
>                  Harald
>