Complex Problems

Spencer Dawkins sdawkins at
Thu Jan 9 11:20:49 CET 2003

Brian must be more realistic than the median. 

It seems like I've heard a LOT of "IPv6 hasn't been widely deployed yet so we're doomed to NAT ourselves into oblivion" at the IETF in the last three years.

I'm remembering a pretty down moment at a recent Minneapolis plenary (IIRC) with Fred saying "none of our customers are asking for IPv6", so I thought the subtext was that this was not what we expected to be happening that year...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian at]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:41 AM
> To: Ayyasamy, Senthilkumar (UMKC-Student)
> Cc: problem-statement at; Dave Crocker
> Subject: Re: Complex Problems
> On the IPng case, it was always clear to me that this would
> be a 15 year process (ten times 18 months). We are now
> about halfway. For a fundamental change, does this shock
> anybody?
>     Brian

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