General comment on draft-ietf-problem-statement-00.txt
Spencer Dawkins
sdawkins at cynetanetworks.com
Fri Feb 28 12:13:11 CET 2003
Hi, Keith,
I'm asking, not arguing - are you suggesting we make a pass through the
problem statement to see if we've specified a solvable problem, and
then nail the solutions team to solving the problem statement problem?
My thinking was that the solutions team would (likely) be solving a
subset of the problems we've identified (modulo boiling the oceans and
creating world peace without hunger). I'm guessing Keith thought I was
opening the door to solutions for NEW problems that weren't identified
in the current draft (or its successors). I wasn't, for the reason
Keith mentioned.
Spencer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Moore [mailto:moore at cs.utk.edu]
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:04 PM
> To: Spencer Dawkins
> Cc: moore at cs.utk.edu; problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: General comment on draft-ietf-problem-statement-00.txt
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:14:57 -0600
> "Spencer Dawkins" <sdawkins at cynetanetworks.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree with Keith that there probably ARE mis-characterizations
> > and omissions in the draft, especially in the detailed descriptions
> > (there was no admission control, right), but would suggest that we
> > try to minimize the time we spend fixing mis-characterizations and
> > omissions in anticipation that the Solutions team will use
> the Problem
> > draft as a starting point, and choose the parts they can imagine
> > solutions for - so there will be a filter at that point, in
> any case.
>
> strongly disagree. if we follow this path there is
> considerable risk that
> 'solutions' will be found to things that are not problems and
> that those
> 'solutions' will create an environment that is worse than the
> status quo. it
> is essential to get a comprehensive problem statement, and
> you can't do that
> once you start arguing about solutions.
>
> Keith
>
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