Killing old/slow groups - transition thinking

[Harald Tveit Alvestrand]

--On onsdag, desember 11, 2002 10:11:55 -0600 Pete Resnick 
<presnick@qualcomm.com> wrote:

> APEX has been sitting in a wait state on one document for some period of
> time now. Personally, in this case I would have liked an auto-shutdown
> procedure, because I would have come to consensus with the IESG about how
> to get this document un-stuck much more quickly. With some great efforts
> by two ADs, it looks like I now do have a path out. My guess is that
> things would have moved faster without extra intervention of those ADs if
> a deadline had generated an interrupt.

to be more exact.... APEX is awaiting the completion of a document in 
another WG (draft-ietf-impp-pres, if I'm not mistaken) so that a normative 
reference to the common stuff that the APEX presence stuff is supposed to 
be conformant to can be satisfied.

your comment about "tired groups" (and tired document editors?) seems very 
much on the mark.

                  Harald