Killing old/slow groups - transition thinking

[Randy Bush]

> I have been focused on off-loading the IESG, in an effort to help
> them find time to more actively lead and manage the IETF, instead
> of being buried in a slew of administrative details.

people tend to be wary of folk who want to do them a favor for
which they have not explicitly asked.  

i prefer to hear about the desired goal(s).  given the voices which
seem to be saying they resent the iesg taking too strong a hand
(yes, there are voices in the other direction too), what do you
mean by "actively lead and manage the ietf?"

btw, i also don't buy your previous that the iesg has no actual
organizational or line management experience.  also, when
discussing how to fill areas, wgs, ... we often try to find a
balance of folk who can do process and those who have technical
vision.

randy