Killing old/slow groups - transition thinking

[Marshall Rose]

> I don't disagree, I am just wondering how draconian we need to be in this.
> Perhaps a middle ground of having a WG review process for WGs behind 
> (or maybe still a yearly evaluation of a WG) might help figure out
> what is working well and what is not working.

john - you raise a larger issue here. today's wall street journal has this
headline for one of its articles:

	Lawmakers Toughen Rules, but Toughness Can't Be Legislated

which may illustrate the sort of situation we find ourselves in.  to summarize
my note yesterday to harald, there seems to have been some kind of long-term
degeneration of the IESG's ability to say "no" or to link actions to
consequences.

considering that you have 13 folks who enjoy above-average intellegence,
substantive professional accomplishment, meaningful community goodwill, etc., i
don't know why this is.  the problem didn't start with the sitting IESG, as it
seems we've been on this slope for a while.

i find this somewhat depressing in the sense that we can try to reform the
system in lots of different ways, but if we lack the backbone to follow-through,
then it just doesn't help...

/mtr