Randy> that's not important. they got the stuff out on time. Right. Would have been better for them to have gotten it perfect, somewhere around 2020. Or maybe folks have been right to suggest that these things are a matter of finding a balance? d/ -- Dave Crocker <mailto:dhc@dcrocker.net> TribalWise <http://www.tribalwise.com> t +1.408.246.8253; f +1.408.850.1850