> for myself, while i'd prefer that 802.11b had good security; i'm not that > bothered that it doesn't because i use tls/ssh for everything that i do... and the 1000+ windows users _at ietf_ who blow their passwords all over the net? and we can watch them get attacked by black-hat sniffers. let's get real here. 802.11 WEP blew it bigtime. randy