[Old-standards] Re: [newtrk] List of Old Standards to be retired

[William Allen Simpson]

Bob Braden wrote:

>If it's not broken, why break it?
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>  *> Standards have been invented for creating markets.
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>That's strange, all these years I thought standards were for
>interoperability.
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Hear, Hear!

Folks, I took a look at the first posting, and was surprised at those
where I'm personally knowledgable. 

  RFC1378       The PPP AppleTalk Control Protocol (ATCP)

It was widely implemented.  I still use this.  My $1000 HP LaserJet 4ML
works fine, it hasn't run out its original cartridge, but I need
appletalk for it. 

  RFC1552       The PPP Internetworking Packet Exchange Control Protocol 
(IPXCP)
  RFC1553       Compressing IPX Headers Over WAN Media (CIPX)

Again, widely implemented.  Sure, IPX wasn't a very good protocol, but
I'm aware of rather a large number of sites that still run it.  Sure,
Novell refused to divulge the contents of some of the fields, so we
just had to carry undifferentiated bytes around, but it worked....

  RFC1598       PPP in X.25
  RFC1618       PPP over ISDN

At one time, these were incredibly important in the 3rd world, and
some parts of Europe and Japan. 

Is X.25 completely non-existant today?  Heck, folks were running X.25
over ISDN D-channels, and those still exist on every PRI circuit....

Admittedly, some of this may be nostalgia, as X.25 was the second
protocol I ever implemented, circa 1978 before so much cruft was
saddled upon it through the "standardization" process.

It seems to me that besides the ossification of the IETF that keeps it
from getting much of anything worthwhile done, some folks have lost
sight of the "inter" part of networking.


  RFC1828       IP Authentication using Keyed MD5
  RFC1829       The ESP DES-CBC Transform

Now *THESE* were historic when written!  Due to US government pressure,
it took years (and big plenary protests) for them to be published! 
Especially without the 40-bit export restrictions! 

At the time, I advocated Triple-DES to be the Proposed Standard,
since we already knew 56-bit DES was broken.  I requested Historic
status for these many years ago....

-- 
William Allen Simpson
    Key fingerprint =  17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26  DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32


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