Proposed new variant subtag: pre1917

Yury Tarasievich yury.tarasievich at
Wed Sep 15 08:01:26 CEST 2010

On 09/15/2010 08:01 AM, Avram Lyon wrote:
> 2010/9/15 Yury Tarasievich<yury.tarasievich at>:
>> Possibly I'm talking from an insider's point of view (on history), but
> Shakhmatov was the chair of the Orthographic Commission that released

I'm not talking about blame at all, but rather 
about 1) the *spread* of the reform in 1918 2) 
it being orthographical primarily (Bunin was 
quoted to show the example of perception).

Also, frankly, Shakhmatov isn't widely known in 
connection with this, rather Lunacharsky 
(people's commissar of education). So, 
speculating in the spirit of Doug's reply, might 
not one be misled into thinking there was some 
*specific* Shakhmatov variant? The chief point 
of decree was simplifying the orthography and 
abolishing the hard cases of "fita, yat and 
izhitsa". The debates on these went on for years 
(even decades?); I believe you can't apportion 
neither blame, nor fame to Shakhmatov for these 

I don't know the realities of American 
Slavistics, of course.

> At least in American Slavistics, Petrine is used very widely to refer
> to Peter I, and specifically to the reforms. No one would call these
> "Peter's reforms" -- only "the Petrine reforms".

Fine, then.


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