Proposed new variant subtag: pre1917

Peter Constable petercon at
Mon Sep 13 06:27:51 CEST 2010

Or perhaps one subtag (but not "pre1917") that denotes any orthography from the period 1708 - 1917.

Peter (a different Peter)

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From: ietf-languages-bounces at [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at] On Behalf Of Michael Everson
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Subject: Re: Proposed new variant subtag: pre1917

On 8 Sep 2010, at 08:44, Avram Lyon wrote:

> For my purposes, I really just need to be able to mark texts that use the post-1917 orthography, but since that is the current orthography, I can't very well insist that the tagging of all Russian texts produced today employ a variant subtag.

I strongly, strongly, recommend that you propose subtags for what the non-post-1917 orthographies ARE, not a subtag for what modern orthography is NOT. I know, for your purposes you may just need to be able to say "not modern" but our subtags don't work negatively.

> The problem is that there are additional orthographic changes in the 18th century, after Peter's 1708 reforms, as some of the letters abolished in 1708 were re-added by the mid-1700s. Additionally, more letters fell into disuse before 1917. 

So you have Peter 1708, something 1750, and something with more disused letters, in addition to modern post-1917 orthography. So you need three subtags.

Michael Everson *

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