suppress-script values for fil, mi, pes, prs, qu members

Peter Constable petercon at
Fri Oct 22 00:05:25 CEST 2010

I can imagine potential scenarios in which some encompassed languages may not follow the rest of the cluster or the dominant languages. E.g., maybe Malay is only commonly written in Latin, but we know that there are indigenous Brahmi-derived scripts, and maybe some encompassed language actually is written with such a script. But I think what you suggest would be typical.

In the case of zh, one Chinese language was not encompassed because it was not used inside China and hence not assumed to be within the sphere of Han ideograph usage.


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From: ietf-languages-bounces at [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at] On Behalf Of David Starner
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Subject: Re: suppress-script values for fil, mi, pes, prs, qu members

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:05 PM, John Cowan <cowan at> wrote:
> Doug suggested that we should have inferred from an S-S record in a 
> macrolanguage that the individual records should have the same S-S 
> value, but that is unsafe, not only for the reasons given in this 
> thread, but also because macrolanguage groupings are mutable: a 
> language may be added to the group that uses a different script.

I don't see how you can reasonably have a macrolanguage with an S-S that isn't the script used for all the languages it covers. As for mutability, S-S is inherently mutable over the long run, since languages do change scripts, but if a language is conceptually part of a macrolanguage, almost certainly it will use the main script. zh and ar are practically defined by their scripts.

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