Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was: Requeststhathave been on hold)
petercon at microsoft.com
Thu Aug 13 08:46:41 CEST 2009
I think I'd need to see a pretty strong argument before I supported using a collection code as a prefix for any subtag -- a big +1 from me on that point.
From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Kent Karlsson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:58 AM
To: ietf-languages at iana.org
Subject: Re: Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was: Requeststhathave been on hold)
I agree with Randy here.
And as a matter of principle I would object to using a collection code as a registered "Prefix" for any subtag. I argued for the inclusion in the registry of the information that a code is a collection code just to ward off the use of collection codes (recognising that we could not really deprecate them, as they are usable in "lack-of-precise info" cases).
As for the "individual language" prefix alternatives here, please choose
*one* only, the one most appropriate.
Den 2009-08-11 19.35, skrev "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn at mindspring.com>:
> Hi -
>> From: "CE Whitehead" <cewcathar at hotmail.com>
>> To: <ietf-languages at iana.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was:
>> Requeststhathave been on hold)
>> Normally I agree on this, and I am probably going to defer to Thomas
>> Goldammer on this matter; but the more I think about it the more it
>> makes sense to register this subtag with a prefix [gem] and then wait
>> for research to add a second prefix; [gem] is now a collection code,
>> right? So using [gem] as the prefix will enable matching algorithms
>> to work.
> I do not see how 'gem' would be preferable as a prefix for purposes of
> "Remove from right" fallback would be extraordinarily unlikely to
> yield useful results with 'gem' as a prefix. Even 'de' (or perhaps
> even 'en') as a prefix would provide more *pragmatically* useful
> results. :-) The collection codes really only make sense in cases
> where one knows that something is in one of a set of languages, but
> lacks the expert knowledge to determine precisely which one. That's
> not the case here, where the question is rather one of how to label
> something which *has* been identified.
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