Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was: Requeststhathave been on hold)

Kent Karlsson kent.karlsson14 at
Tue Aug 11 20:58:16 CEST 2009

I agree with Randy here.

And as a matter of principle I would object to using a collection code
as a registered "Prefix" for any subtag. I argued for the inclusion in
the registry of the information that a code is a collection code just
to ward off the use of collection codes (recognising that we could not
really deprecate them, as they are usable in "lack-of-precise info" cases).

As for the "individual language" prefix alternatives here, please choose
*one* only, the one most appropriate.

    /kent k

Den 2009-08-11 19.35, skrev "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn at>:

> Hi -
>> From: "CE Whitehead" <cewcathar at>
>> To: <ietf-languages at>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was:
>> Requeststhathave been on hold)
> ...
>> Normally I agree on this, and I am probably going to defer to Thomas
>> Goldammer
>> on this matter; but the more I think about it the more it makes sense to
>> register this
>> subtag with a prefix [gem] and then wait for research to add a second prefix;
>> [gem]
>> is now a collection code, right?  So using [gem] as the prefix will enable
>> matching
>> algorithms to work.
> ...
> I do not see how 'gem' would be preferable as a prefix for purposes of
> matching.
> "Remove from right" fallback would be extraordinarily unlikely to yield useful
> results
> with 'gem' as a prefix.  Even 'de' (or perhaps even 'en') as a prefix would
> provide
> more *pragmatically* useful results.  :-)  The collection codes really only
> make sense
> in cases where one knows that something is in one of a set of languages, but
> lacks
> the expert knowledge to determine precisely which one.  That's not the case
> here,
> where the question is rather one of how to label something which *has* been
> identified.
> Randy
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