ID for language-invariant strings

[Karen_Broome at spe.sony.com]

Doug wrote:

>Except that none of these, other than the Chinese examples, are
>actually translations of Michael's name into other languages. They are
>transcriptions, with a few phonetic changes necessary to accommodate
>the target script.


In Czech, the name spelling depends on the case and the use in the
sentence. It has meaning. It is not a transcription.

Even just adding "ova" to the name adds semantics by indicating the person
is female. In Czech, I can be Karena, Kareno, Karenem, Karenovi, etc.

For Pierre Desjardins to get the right thing done with his name in Czech
and other languages, the programming logic needs to know his name is a
name.

Therefore <name>Pierre Desjardins</name> should be the best markup for that
text when encompassed by a lang tag applied to the document body.


Regards,

Karen Broome


-----ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no wrote: -----

>To: <ietf-languages at iana.org>
>From: "Doug Ewell" <doug at ewellic.org>
>Sent by: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no
>Date: 03/15/2008 11:33AM
>Subject: Re: ID for language-invariant strings
>
>Michael Everson <everson at evertype dot com> wrote:
>
>>>+1  A recipe for taggers trying to get pesonal names right as noted
>by
>>>Nall (fr / zxx Pierre Desjardins) would help.  Michael's example
>>>Everson Mono goes in a similar direction.
>>
>> Except that I, helpfully, provide this:
>> http://www.evertype.com/misc/michael/nomen.html
>
>Except that none of these, other than the Chinese examples, are
>actually
>translations of Michael's name into other languages.  They are
>transcriptions, with a few phonetic changes necessary to accommodate
>the
>target script.  None of them (except Chinese) is comparable to
>translating "Pierre Desjardins" to "Peter Gardener."
>
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