Erzgebirgisch Classification Question
niall.tracey at logica.com
Tue Apr 1 17:48:06 CEST 2008
> Our goal in registering variants like 'erzgeb' is to allow legitimate
> language variations to be tagged, not to provide tags with perfect
> mnemonic or language-hierarchy value.
Ciarán Ó Duibhín replied:
> On that view, it comes down to whether "sxu" or "de" looks better in
> the present state of our knowledge. Thomas has magnanimously accepted
> "sxu", but back in January he gave his reasons for regarding
> Erzgebirgisch as a form of Franconian (and I assume Franconian would
> have prefix "de"). I am uncomfortable that we might decide in favour
> of "sxu" without giving those arguments due consideration.
I have a problem here, although it may be a misunderstanding on my part of the purpose of subtagging.
I can't exactly remember where I read it, but my understanding was that with regards to the web, a subtag tree was intended to be navigable, and that it would be used to find a "best fit" page.
Taking EN as an example, if my browser identified itself as EN_UK, it would give me an EN_UK page if available, an EN page if there was no EN_UK, but if there was only EN_US it would give that and I would understand it.
But would a speaker of Erzgerbirgisch understand a page in Upper Saxon? Would a speaker of Upper Saxon understand a page in Erzgerbirgisch? The same questions stand for Franconian and Erzgebirgisch?
I suspect not, although I must confess to having no knowledge of the languages.
Wouldn't an Erzgebirgisch speaker prefer a standard German page if no Erz. alternative is available, which surely means that the only suitable options are:
A) subtag of DE
B) stand-alone tag
Of course, A) should still only be done if linguistically justifiable. (Just as I wouldn't want Scottish Gaelic or Irish to be considered a subtag of EN just because all speakers of them can understand English.)
As I said, though, I may have misunderstood the purpose of the tagging system.
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