Fwd: (iso639.2708) RE: ISO 639-2 decision: "mis"

Mark Davis mark.davis at icu-project.org
Mon Jun 18 19:09:25 CEST 2007

This got bounced for too many recipients: trying again. MD

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From: Mark Davis <mark.davis at icu-project.org>
Date: Jun 18, 2007 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: (iso639.2708) RE: ISO 639-2 decision: "mis"
To: Peter Constable <petercon at microsoft.com>
Cc: Kent Karlsson <kent.karlsson14 at comhem.se>, Milicent K Wewerka <
mwew at loc.gov>, John Cowan <cowan at ccil.org>, "iso639 at dkuug.dk" <
iso639 at dkuug.dk>, "ietf-languages at iana.org" <ietf-languages at iana.org>, "
iso639-2 at loc.gov" <iso639-2 at loc.gov>, "isojac at loc.gov" <isojac at loc.gov>, "
HHj at standard.no" <HHj at standard.no>, LTRU Working Group <ltru at ietf.org>

Unfortunately, ISO codes have somewhat of an impedance mismatch with the
needs of the IT community; in particular, stability. Thus BCP 47 has to
stabilize those codes; one of the main reasons for the existence of RFC
4646. What that means is that if ISO tries to narrow the meaning of *any*
code, whether it is a "clarification" or not, we have really only two

1. Keep the broader semantic, which encompasses the new ISO narrow one, or
2. Deprecate the code (in one way or another).

Unlike many other codes, "mis" is one that we can do without, so #2 was a
reasonable choice.

What I was trying to come up with language that we could agree on even
though we have very different views on the utility and meaning of 'mis'. It
sounds like we are ok on the suggested language on the other thread, so I'm
hoping that we can put "mis" to bed.


On 6/16/07, Peter Constable <petercon at microsoft.com > wrote:
> From: Kent Karlsson [mailto: kent.karlsson14 at comhem.se]
> > With the "old mis" one could correctly apply 'mis' as a language
> > code for any language
> That has *never* been the intent of ISO 639. It is an external
> interpretation, admittedly possible because ISO 639 was not fully explicit
> up to now. But from the perspective of the JAC, the "new mis" is exactly the
> same "mis" as the "old mis".
> Peter


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