Proposal for a new variant subtag of the french language (fr)
debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk
Fri Dec 7 22:04:17 CET 2007
+1 I am having difficulty in finding information on this.
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> From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no
> [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Doug Ewell
> Sent: 07 December 2007 19:44
> To: ietf-languages at iana.org
> Subject: Re: Proposal for a new variant subtag of the french
> language (fr)
> Michael Everson <everson at evertype dot com> wrote:
> > I mean "ortograf" is a pretty bad label for what was described.
> > Compare en-axelwijk.
> The movement behind this orthography apparently uses the name
> "ortograf", in contrast with the traditional French spelling
> "orthographe". Given that, it actually seems to be a fairly
> appropriate subtag value.
> Rather than debating the exact value of the subtag, we might
> want to ask whether this is a suitable candidate for
> registration at all. It seems to be a locally-sponsored
> proposal to create a reformed French spelling for
> "intellectual deficients." Most of the Web sites that
> describe this orthography appear to be interrelated and have
> a close working relationship with the University of Montréal
> researchers who created it.
> The extent of adoption of this "new spelling standard" may be
> The effort to create and promote this orthography is led by
> Mario Périard, who requested the registration of this subtag. From
> http://www.ortograf.net/?q=fr/node/5 :
> "Qui est derrière la norme Ortograf?
> "La norme Ortograf est une initiative de Mario Périard,
> auquel se sont joints des collaborateurs de diverses origines
> au sein du groupe de développement de la norme Ortograf. La
> mission du groupe consiste à développer et promouvoir la
> norme Ortograf en vue d'en faire une orthographe communément
> acceptée du français."
> I know we have not shied away from registering people's
> inventions before (Dr. Han Steenwijk admitted that the "1994"
> orthography for Resian was his invention), but I wonder how
> far we want to go down this path. The ietf-languages group
> may not wish to be known as the place where people go to get
> their own inventions registered, similar to Omniglot or
> LangMaker for constructed scripts.
> The creators of Web pages in this orthography apparently have
> not seen a need thus far to tag their own pages distinctly.
> Instead of a language tag like "fr-x-alt" that would
> demonstrate the need, the University of Montréal and Société
> Logique pages are tagged simply "fr", while the home page at
> ortograf.net inexplicably uses the tag "frm", which stands
> for Middle French (ca. 1400-1600). The understanding of IETF
> language tagging and BCP 47 leaves something to be desired here.
> Perhaps it would be best to hold off on this request until
> there is more evidence of its appropriateness.
> Doug Ewell * Fullerton, California, USA * RFC 4645 *
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