Language X within scope of language Y

Mark Davis mark.davis at
Fri Jan 28 02:21:53 CET 2005

Curiously, some years ago I was in a village near Cork with my children,
looking at a map on the street. An older lady stopped and asked if I needed
help. We talked for a while, then she asked me if I came from Belfast, which
surprised me -- to say the least. So there must be at least the perception
of substantial differences between north and south.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Constable" <petercon at>
To: "Jon Hanna" <jon at>; "Doug Ewell" <dewell at>;
<ietf-languages at>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 16:12
Subject: RE: Language X within scope of language Y

> From: ietf-languages-bounces at [mailto:ietf-languages-
> bounces at] On Behalf Of Jon Hanna

> I've heard, but
> > can't verify, that English as spoken in Northern Ireland is
> > essentially
> > the same language as English spoken in, well, southern Ireland.
> Certainly I would have more in common with someone from the Republic
> anywhere in Britain, but some speakers would be more heavily
influenced by
> Ulster-Scots perhaps.

My impression had been that the phonology (accent) of speakers in
Belfast was closer to that of speakers in Liverpool than to speakers in

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