draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, sp ecifications, "stability", and extensions

Scott W Brim sbrim at cisco.com
Thu Jan 6 19:04:49 CET 2005

Dave Crocker wrote:

>It occurs to me that a Last Call for an independent submission has an added requirement to satisfy, namely that the community supports adoption of the work.  We take a working group as a demonstration of community support.  (However we used to pressure for explicit statements during Last Call.)  My feeling is that an independent submission MUST show significant support during Last Call.
>In other words, a working group document getting IETF Last Call has something of a Default Yes. And independent submission needs to be Default No.
Pretty close.  Certainly the default can't be "Yes".  However the reason 
why many things come in as individual submissions is that the community 
doesn't care much.  So if the IESG is satisfied enough to put out a last 
call, and nobody responds -- it doesn't have community support -- the 
default community position shouldn't be "no" but "no objection". 

(In this specific case it appears to me, as an outsider, that there has 
been significant objection, and not all of it dismissable.)


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