Language Identifier List up for comments
Elizabeth J. Pyatt
ejp10 at psu.edu
Tue Dec 14 16:02:28 CET 2004
I actually think John made my point better than I did.
My question is whether you want to capture only standard languages or
all possible dialects? If it is the latter, then the list will get
much larger and will not be restricted to just nations only. Some
dialects could be regional, but some could be based more on
socio-economic factors (e.g. African American Vernacular English). I
would actually recommend another working group for that.
As a linguist, I would want a taxonomy to describe all spoken
languages/dialects. For instance, there is no :"language code" for
the different spoken Chinese forms (e.g. Cantonese, Hakka, etc) and
using a country code would not be adequate to distinguish them.
For written language, this is not normally an issue because the
phonetics are not represented. Therefore a single code of "zh" is
adequate. If you are considering standard written languages only,
then I think the current list is on the right track, but would need
Spoken varieties on the other hand is a really big project.
>Elizabeth J. Pyatt wrote:
>>Do you really need to specify different types of English used in
>>the United States territories (e.g. Puerto Rico, Guam, etc). I'm
>>aware that there are local varieties in some cases, but I'm not
>>sure they are reflected in the WRITTEN forms, just in
>>pronunciation. That is, business English is the same in Puerto Rico
>>as in the continental U.S.
>>Theoretically, you could create a pronunciation/syntax engine for
>>en-PR as well as en-TX (Texas), en-NYC (New Yawk City), etc, but
>>I'm not sure how well received it would be as a serious tool.
>Machine-generated speech is presumably not the only spoken resource
>that needs language codes. I can imagine labeling a library of
>recordings of English speakers from lots of places, and thus needing
>all of en-US-PR, en-US-TX and en-US-NY-NewYorkCity.
>- John D. Burger
Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
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