I-D Action:draft-faltstrom-5892bis-01.txt
"Martin J. Dürst"
duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp
Tue Dec 14 05:34:25 CET 2010
Hello John, others,
On 2010/12/14 13:05, John C Klensin wrote:
>
>
> --On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:30 -0800
> Internet-Drafts at ietf.org wrote:
>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
>> Internet-Drafts directories.
>>
>> Title : The Unicode code points and IDNA - Unicode
>> 6.0 Author(s) : P. Faltstrom, P. Hoffman
>> Filename : draft-faltstrom-5892bis-01.txt
>> Pages : 4
>> Date : 2010-12-13
>> ...
>
> I hope the comments that follow are complementary to Martin's,
> not competitive with them.
They are quite complementary indeed. And I think they definitely should
be taken into account.
Regards, Martin.
> I believe that they are editorial,
> rather than substantive, but may be important.
>
> (1) The organization of this document almost implies that the
> three characters identified are the only changes from Unicode
> 5.2 to Unicode 6.0. That is not the case. A lot of new
> characters have been added and, extrapolating from James's
> comments, we should be doing at least a pro forma review as to
> whether all of the others are associated with properties that
> cause them to be appropriated classified for IDNA purposes.
> That suggests to me that either:
>
> -- this draft needs a brief summary of the other changes
> made in 6.0, number of new characters added, etc. That
> can be done in large measure with some anchoring text
> and a citation of a Unicode change summary, but it ought
> to be done.
>
> -- the abstract, introduction, and maybe even title need
> to be narrowed down to make it clear that the document
> addresses _only_ those characters that were defined in
> Unicode 5.2 or earlier and whose properties changed in
> 6.0 in a way that effects IDNA.
>
> I'm pretty agnostic about that choice right now (someone could
> easily persuade me that one or the other was better), but I
> think it has to be one or the other.
>
> (2) I think that, if there is going to be a section titled "IETF
> Consensus" that the reasoning for the conclusion should be
> given, even if it is in abbreviated form. This is an informed
> decision, not the result of some voting process among the
> ignorant.
>
> (3) The statement in Section 2 that reads "The IETF will produce
> a new RFC of this type for every change..." is quite significant
> and a major step, reversing a decision to be deliberately vague
> on this subject when 5890ff were written. It also binds us to
> a strategy that many had hoped would gradually evolve into an
> IANA activity with some expert support as experience
> accumulated. It commits the IETF to producing a new RFC with
> every version and sub-version of Unicode -- somewhat over one
> per year if recent patterns continue and my arithmetic is
> correct. We have rarely made such commitments and, IMO, have
> had difficulty consistently supporting them when we have. I
> recommend replacing it with a statement that this document is
> being produced because 6.0 is the first version of Unicode to be
> released since IDNA2008 was published and leaving the future
> somewhat more open-ended.
>
> -john
>
>
>
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