ICANN News Alert -- Status Update: IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process Implementation

Harald Alvestrand harald at alvestrand.no
Thu Sep 17 12:54:00 CEST 2009

Remember that the total paid staff of the IETF is ~6 people, and they do 
not get involved in technical discussions.

All document work, including working up summaries like the one you wish 
to see, has to be done by volunteers - people whose hours are paid for 
by other organizations.


Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> Hello Tina,
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Tina Dam <tina.dam at icann.org 
> <mailto:tina.dam at icann.org>> wrote:
>     Siva, if you are asking for a formal ietf response then this may
>     not be as simple to produce quickly. If you are ok with vint's
>     reply below then this would enable the members of this list to
>     spend their time on getting to the ietf last call.
> First, I am very thankful to Vint Cerf for his reply, but as he has 
> indicated his reply does not constitute a comprehensive response.
> You are right in your observation that it may not be simple for IETF 
> to produce a response quickly. Whether it is difficult to produce or 
> takes time for IETF to produce it, a consolidated IETF report is 
> essential. If we make a summary of the work done by IETF, it would be 
> a summary riddled with inferences, whereas if it comes from the IETF 
> it would be precise. Moreover I do not wish to make guesses about what 
> IETF feels about the technical preparedness.
> And, how would this exercise prevent members of this list from 
> spending time on getting to the IETF last call? My questions are not 
> in any manner intended to distract the list from their current pursuits.
>     If you need something more detailed for the korea meeting then I
>     and others can provide that in an idn update to the alac and
>     at-large members.
> You have been very helpful, and your updates are informative. But this 
> request to this list is more in the nature of a question to IETF about 
> what the IETF feels about the technical preparedness as also questions 
> succh as "Does IETF have any recommendation for 'technically-phasing' 
> in IDN implementation?" for which the response can only come from the 
> Tina, I wish to assure you that I am equally, if not more, passionate 
> about IDN implementation as you are. At the same time I feel that it 
> important to make sure that every thing is thoroughly considered.
>     Tina
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>     *To*: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com
>     <mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com>>
>     *Cc*: Harald Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no
>     <mailto:harald at alvestrand.no>>; Patrik Fältström
>     <patrik at frobbit.se <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>;
>     idna-update at alvestrand.no <mailto:idna-update at alvestrand.no>
>     <idna-update at alvestrand.no <mailto:idna-update at alvestrand.no>>
>     *Sent*: Sun Sep 13 13:45:27 2009
>     *Subject*: Re: ICANN News Alert -- Status Update: IDN ccTLD Fast
>     Track Process Implementation
>     we are in final stages of the WG last call and hope to have the
>     final documents to the AD this week.
>     It is too early to tell how well these changes will be implemented
>     and how quickly they will spread.
>     The browser software vendors are already meeting, however,
>     informally to assess how to incorporate IDNA2008 while coping with
>     IDNA2003 legacy domain name registrations.
>     I know this is not a comprehensive response.
>     vint cerf
>     On Sep 13, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>>     Hello
>>     I wish to request a summary from IETF for the purpose of
>>     reporting to ALAC and to the at-Large structures through the
>>     RALOs about the status of completion of technical tasks related
>>     to IDN implementation. IETF has done exhaustive work in this area
>>     and at-Large has been informed about the recent internet drafts
>>     https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy
>>     At-Large structures comprise users who might require a
>>     non-technical summary of technical progress covering answers to
>>     questions such as:
>>     1) Has IETF completed all technical tasks related to IDN
>>     implementation? If there are any pending tasks, are these tasks
>>     expected to be completed in time before the implementation begins
>>     and if there are to be any further pending tasks, will be be safe
>>     to assume that such pending tasks are of a non-critical nature?
>>     2) Is IETF 'comfortable' with the technical preparedness for IDN
>>     implementation to begin immediately following the ICANN meeting
>>     at Seoul? In other words, is there an "all-set" green signal from
>>     IETF?
>>     3) Though IDN TLDs are to be implemented in a phased manner,
>>     (fast-tracked ccTLDs first, followed by the next wave of IDN
>>     ccTLDs /gTLDs) the implementation might proceed to fully
>>     integrate IDN TLDs in the root.I would call the 'fast-track
>>     first' sequence as 'adminsitrative-phasing' of IDN TLD
>>     implementation. Does IETF have any recommendation for
>>     'technically-phasing' in IDN implementation? ( I would be glad to
>>     non-technically expand this question)
>>     This communication is posted as a request for inputs.
>>     Thank you.
>>     Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>     IDN Liaison - At Large Advisory Committee
>>     Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
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>>     LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
>>     Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
>>     2009/9/10 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se
>>     <mailto:patrik at frobbit.se>>
>>         On 10 sep 2009, at 04.07, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>             what is the status of each of your documents in terms of
>>             absorbing inputs from last call?
>>         You should see new version of -tables- today.
>>             What issues do you need me, as chair, to provide guidance
>>             for, if any?
>>         None (I am pretty sure of...).
>>           Patrik
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