consensus Call: TATWEEL

Ebw ebw at
Sun Mar 22 17:43:14 CET 2009

OTHER. My concern is that we may be  "latinizing" Arabic (and Farsi  
and ...), that is, imposing the linear constraint of current nav bars  
(and command lines) on a script which is best written as a descending  
(non-linear) and vertically as well as horizontally combining (or  
interacting) characters.

I propose we ask modern (3rd gen) Arabic (and Farsi, etc) typographers  
for guidance. I'm not certain the UTC motivation is sufficient, nor am  
I certain the ASIWG, the process of which I find insufficiently  
trasparent, and unacceptably vendor-specific, hasn't overlooked use in  
their excessively narrow construction of text labels as "necessary  
words" with the excessive constraints arise from the incorrect  
statement of purpose.


Sent from my iPhone, painfully.

On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Vint Cerf <vint at> wrote:

> Based on the on-line exchanges, it appears to me that the general
> consensus is to ban TATWEEL by exception (ie. make it DISALLOWED).
> Please respond with:
> YES (ie make it DISALLOWED)
> NO (ie leave it PVALID)
> OTHER: <explain what you propose>
> I will tally the responses arriving by April 4, midnight, EDT.
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