Contextual rule for GERESH?

[Patrik Fältström]

Thanks.

    paf

On 15 jul 2009, at 19.14, Mark Davis ⌛ wrote:

> That is what I was saying: the test should be changed from:
>
>     The script of the preceding character and the subsequent
>     character, if any, MUST be Hebrew.
>
> to
>
>     The script of the preceding character MUST be Hebrew.
>
> or, more accurately:
>
>     There must be a preceding character, and its script MUST be  
> Hebrew.
>
> Mark
>
>
> 2009/7/15 Matitiahu Allouche <matial at il.ibm.com>
>
>>
>> Patrik Fältström asked (speaking of the Rule Set for Geresh):
>> <quote>Should be changed so it is also ok if the character before  
>> or after
>> is
>> a '-'?:<end of quote>
>>
>> I don't see a valid use case where Geresh could come after a '-'.
>>
>> Geresh is normally used in Hebrew as the last character of an  
>> abbreviation.
>> The previous character should thus be a Hebrew letter.
>>
>> In the context of IDNA where 2 or more parts of speech may be  
>> joined as one
>> token (label), I don't see a way to restrict what may come after  
>> the Geresh.
>>
>> Shalom (Regards),  Mati
>>          Bidi Architect
>>          Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts
>>          IBM Israel
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>>
>>
>> *Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>*
>> Sent by: idna-update-bounces at alvestrand.no
>>
>> 15/07/2009 16:00
>>  To
>> Mark Davis <mark at macchiato.com>  cc
>> idna-update at alvestrand.no  Subject
>> Contextual rule for GERESH?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 nov 2008, at 03.15, Mark Davis wrote:
>>
>>> For example those for GERESH, which can be a final character in
>>> words, but the rules
>>> require to be followed by a Hebrew letter, when "-" should also be
>>> allowed
>>> (the GERSHAYIM rules on the other hand are ok, since it is only
>>> medial).
>>
>> Is what you are saying that the current rules:
>>
>>> Appendix A.8.  HEBREW PUNCTUATION GERESH
>>>   Code point:
>>>      U+05F3
>>>   Overview:
>>>      The script of the preceding character and the subsequent
>>>      character, if any, MUST be Hebrew.
>>>   Lookup:
>>>      False
>>>   Rule Set:
>>>      False;
>>>      If Script(Before(cp)) .eq.  Hebrew And
>>>         LastChar .eq. cp Then True;
>>>         If Script(Before(cp)) .eq.  Hebrew And
>>>            Script(After(cp)) .eq.  Hebrew Then True;
>>>
>>
>> Should be changed so it is also ok if the character before or after  
>> is
>> a '-'?
>>
>> Please provide new rules.
>>
>>   paf
>>
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