mappings-01

John C Klensin klensin at jck.com
Sat Jul 4 17:13:28 CEST 2009


FWIW, I think this decision is exactly right.

    john


--On Saturday, July 04, 2009 08:10 -0700 Paul Hoffman
<phoffman at imc.org> wrote:

> At 8:40 AM -0400 7/4/09, Vint Cerf wrote:
>> second, do the two of you have a preference for how this
>> mapping  should be referenced?
> 
> Yes: if it referenced with RFC 2119 language, that language
> should actually match the definitions in RFC 2119.
> 
>> Many participants have suggested that the mapping SHOULD be
>> applied so  as to convey
>> the importance of the regularity the document produces but
>> allowing  for circumstances that
>> might justify not mapping. I would underscore the weight
>> given in IETF  terms to "SHOULD"
>> as one is expected to adhere to the advice and only deviate
>> for very  good reasons.
> 
> As Pete said, we *took out* the RFC 2119 language from this
> draft. When a document says "you SHOULD do xyz", it ought to
> say when the SHOULD needs not be done. Another way of saying
> this is, for every SHOULD, the document ought to say why it
> was not a MUST.
> 
> Everyone unclear on this should go back and read RFC 2119. It
> is quite short, and quite definitive.
> 
> In the case of mapping user input, we could not give a good
> reason why this is needs to be required. It is clearly a good
> idea because it will prevent user surprise, and we say  so.
> However, mapping does not promote interoperability between DNS
> clients and servers, nor between applications. Things that are
> just good ideas where the exceptions cannot be well defined
> are not, in my opinion, applicable targets of RFC 2119
> "SHOULD".
> 
> If the WG has consensus a proposal for the exact wording they
> want that uses RFC 2119 language that actually meets the
> requirements of RFC 2119, Pete and I would be happy to
> incorporate it. We suspect that it won't happen, and that
> we'll waste a long time arguing about it, which is why we
> ripped out the RFC 2119 language in this round.
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