mappings-01
John C Klensin
klensin at jck.com
Sat Jul 4 17:13:28 CEST 2009
FWIW, I think this decision is exactly right.
john
--On Saturday, July 04, 2009 08:10 -0700 Paul Hoffman
<phoffman at imc.org> wrote:
> At 8:40 AM -0400 7/4/09, Vint Cerf wrote:
>> second, do the two of you have a preference for how this
>> mapping should be referenced?
>
> Yes: if it referenced with RFC 2119 language, that language
> should actually match the definitions in RFC 2119.
>
>> Many participants have suggested that the mapping SHOULD be
>> applied so as to convey
>> the importance of the regularity the document produces but
>> allowing for circumstances that
>> might justify not mapping. I would underscore the weight
>> given in IETF terms to "SHOULD"
>> as one is expected to adhere to the advice and only deviate
>> for very good reasons.
>
> As Pete said, we *took out* the RFC 2119 language from this
> draft. When a document says "you SHOULD do xyz", it ought to
> say when the SHOULD needs not be done. Another way of saying
> this is, for every SHOULD, the document ought to say why it
> was not a MUST.
>
> Everyone unclear on this should go back and read RFC 2119. It
> is quite short, and quite definitive.
>
> In the case of mapping user input, we could not give a good
> reason why this is needs to be required. It is clearly a good
> idea because it will prevent user surprise, and we say so.
> However, mapping does not promote interoperability between DNS
> clients and servers, nor between applications. Things that are
> just good ideas where the exceptions cannot be well defined
> are not, in my opinion, applicable targets of RFC 2119
> "SHOULD".
>
> If the WG has consensus a proposal for the exact wording they
> want that uses RFC 2119 language that actually meets the
> requirements of RFC 2119, Pete and I would be happy to
> incorporate it. We suspect that it won't happen, and that
> we'll waste a long time arguing about it, which is why we
> ripped out the RFC 2119 language in this round.
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