Not Folding Case (was: Re: Eszett ( was AW: Esszett, Final Sigma, ZWJ and ZWNJ)

Mark Davis mark at macchiato.com
Tue Feb 24 22:22:18 CET 2009


Moreover, the supposedly required deaccenting of uppercase French appears to
be a canard. Not only is it contested by internationalization experts like
Michel Suignard, but even casual browsing will find respectable usage of
uppercase with accents such as:

http://www.lemonde.fr/

eg on that page "LE MONDE DES SÉRIES", plus the tabs.

Mark


On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 13:12, Kenneth Whistler <kenw at sybase.com> wrote:

> jfc said:
>
> > May I add that French supports calls for uper cases NOT to be folded
> > but to be supported as characters by their own.
> > This means that "ecole.fr", "école.fr" and "Ecole.fr" are to be three
> > different domain names.
>
> which is just silly. The implication of that is that the
> following would also be different domain names:
>
> eCole.fr
> ecOle.fr
> ecoLe.fr
> ecolE.fr
> ECole.fr
> EcOle.fr
> EcoLe.fr
> EcolE.fr
> ECOle.fr
> ECoLe.fr
> EColE.fr
>
> etc., etc., for 32 different strings, before even starting
> to consider the accent folding issues.
>
> This is incompatible both with existing ASCII domain name
> usage *and* with IDNA 2003 domain name usage. And it
> would result in a combinatorial bundling nightmare requiring
> 2^n items be bundled for every n Latin (or Greek or Cyrillic)
> letter in a domain name.
>
> And no, you cannot get away with claiming this would only
> apply to the first letter of a domain name, because there
> is no mechanism in IDNA for parsing out words in domain
> name labels, viz.:
>
> http://dangerecole.blogspot.com/
>
> as opposed to:
>
> http://www.ecoleprinceton.org/
>
> or
>
> http://www.ecolephilippegaulier.com/
>
> --Ken
>
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