editorial comment to 2009-07 idnabis draft

Nicolas Krebs nicolas1.krebs3 at netcourrier.com
Wed Aug 5 18:43:04 CEST 2009

>Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:45:02 -0400
>From: John C Klensin <klensin at jck.com>
>To: Nicolas Krebs <nicolas1.krebs3 at netcourrier.com>, Idna-update at alvestrand.no
>Subject: Re: editorial comment to 2009-07 idnabis draft

>Could you take a careful look at the recently-posted
>Protocol-13, and tell me if it meets your needs/desires?    


> If
>it does not, could you explain, using a specific example,
>exactly what you are looking for?

Something like 
diff -u draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-13.txt
@@ -859,18 +859,19 @@
               Alvestrand, H. and C. Karp, "An updated IDNA criterion for
               right-to-left scripts", July 2008, <https://
-              datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi/>.
+              datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi/>
+              draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-02 .
               Klensin, J., "Internationalized Domain Names for
               Applications (IDNA): Definitions and Document Framework",
               February 2009, <https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/
-              draft-ietf-idnabis-defs/>.
+              draft-ietf-idnabis-defs/> draft-ietf-idnabis-defs-05 .
               Faltstrom, P., "The Unicode Codepoints and IDNA",
               July 2008, <https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/
-              draft-ietf-idnabis-tables/>.
+              draft-ietf-idnabis-tables/> draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-02 .
               A version of this document is available in HTML format at
@@ -933,13 +934,13 @@
               Resnick, P., "Mapping Characters in IDNA", July 2009, <htt
-              draft-ietf-idnabis-mapping/>.
+              draft-ietf-idnabis-mapping/> draft-ietf-idnabis-mapping-01 .
               Klensin, J., Ed., "Internationalizing Domain Names for
               Applications (IDNA): Issues, Explanation, and Rationale",
               February 2009, <https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/
-              draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale>.
+              draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale> draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-07 .
    [RFC2136]  Vixie, P., Thomson, S., Rekhter, Y., and J. Bound,
               "Dynamic Updates in the Domain Name System (DNS UPDATE)",

>My guess from the examples you gave is that Patrik is using
><series> elements in xml2rfc.   I gave up on it a while ago for
>I-Ds (too much trouble to keep updated, too little payoff) and
>started putting the link into a "target" attribute on the
><reference> element.

I can't find the xml versions of the http://tools.ietf.org/wg/idnabis/ drafts.

>A fix to incorporate the citation with every mention of the
>document isn't going to happen for the reasons already
>explained, but, if the concern is how the references are
>written, I'd at least like to better understand what you are
>asking for.  If it is easily done and doesn't violate some norm,
>I think you can assume that it will happen.

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